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Permanent DSL disconnects :-(


2010-09-03
 
Hi,

I have the following problem: When my DSL is the hour from complete. Then nothing helps on my side, absolutely nothing (turn on / off all devices, etc.)

If I do nothing at all pure, then it runs again at some point, and if it's up and running, it runs well.

I once analyzed the itemized bill from August, and come just to 55% online time.
Maximum connection time at a time: 22h 42 minutes
maximum offline time in a row: 14h 54 minutes
average call duration: 2hrs 36min
average off-time: 2hrs 9min

Latest firmware is since Monday evening on the Fritz! Box on it, but no improvement in the log to see.

Oh yeah, that's not the original log but the event log from the Fritz! Box reformatted and sorted chronlogisch. (The event log is so backward)

How it will be well? Who is responsible to (besides me)?
I suspect the DSL connection is not working and needs to 1und1 Telekom set in motion.
What rights do I have when the baked not get? What deadlines must remedy the defect, I give them?
Can I recover reduce total /?

ciao

frank
If the power light flashes of the Fritz-Box, the box has no "Sync" more to the exchange and you are sure that the problem lies there. So it was with me once ...

What I have done at that time also registered a case-by-call DSL provider, no month. Fee required and I logged on. When it still had problems, it could not be due to 1und1.

Dirk
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If the power light flashes of the Fritz-Box, the box has no "Sync" more to the exchange and you are sure that the problem lies there.

Isses so easy, unfortunately not, as the Fritz Fon it myself several problems with the DSL Sync has.


Maybe just a DSL modem instead dranhängen the fritz at the splitter, and see how it runs so ...?

Regards

TWELVE
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Originally Posted by TWELVE Quote:
If the power light flashes of the Fritz-Box, the box has no "Sync" more to the exchange and you are sure that the problem lies there.

Isses so easy, unfortunately not, as the Fritz Fon it myself several problems with the DSL Sync has.


Maybe just a DSL modem instead dranhängen the fritz at the splitter, and see how it runs so ...?

Regards

TWELVE
I have both Fritz! Box and DSL from 1und1. Since it works really well in between (there were times in a row 22h), I conclude from incorrect configuration. Everything else is either ensure 1und1 (Fritz! Box) or the duty of 1und1 to provide the paid service as well. The question is, how do I do with 1und1 pressure to do something too. Another modem is not really a purchase option. Before the move to switch the DSL connection (T-DSL on Schlund and Partner) in the old apartment, the Fritz! Box has all worked without any snags. This was, however, T-DSL 1000th

ciao

frank
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Another modem is not really a purchase option.
Well, maybe I'm too much of me as gone out and got lying around such a modem always (I always get from the provider to ... )
that looks great when something is broken or to compare with.

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This was, however, T-DSL 1000th
Well, there's a Riesenunterschied.Wobei You did not mention what speed you have now.


Regards

TWELVE
OT
I added the additional time "DSL" in the title, otherwise the all think when reading the thread summary, it is the conversation crashes.

We're a VOIP forum and no DSL Forum

/ OT
Since I have DSL 6000, I have now and then PPPoE error or loss of sync. However, takes a maximum of five minutes. Maybe the rich reserves management is not enough. Will tackle them sometime soon at T-Com.

jo
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Since I have DSL 6000, I have now and then PPPoE error or loss of sync. However, takes a maximum of five minutes. Maybe the rich reserves management is not enough. Will tackle them sometime soon at T-Com.

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Router: FRITZ! Box Fon WLAN 08.03.67,

This need not, it is definitely at the Fritz Fon.Hatte so problems with it and then I gegangen.Mit to .73 this is it satisfactory (even if the FBF creates 6Mbit not quite as already overloaded). This FW version DSL has much better values for a given DSL is Anschluß.Nachteil that the .73 back a little more echo on VoIP on the fixed side erzeugt.Naja, you can not have everything ...

Regards

TWELVE
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Originally Posted by TWELVE Quote:
Another modem is not really a purchase option.
Well, maybe I'm too much of me as gone out and got lying around such a modem always (I always get from the provider to ... )
that looks great when something is broken or to compare with.

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This was, however, T-DSL 1000th
Well, there's a Riesenunterschied.Wobei You did not mention what speed you have now.
I still have the old telecom modem that of UR-2 is not working, and a second Fritz! Box FON WLAN 7050th
The current speed I have available in the Sig. Have a 1.5 Mbit connection 2Mbit was not possible.

ciao

frank
disconnections have this now already since 5 clock tomorrow constantly, for weeks after it ran smoothly (see FW Sig).
Can not really lie in the pits?
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Originally Posted by Borsti67 disconnections have this now already since 5 clock tomorrow constantly, for weeks after it ran smoothly (see FW Sig).
Can not really lie in the pits?
Yes and no. If the box has a higher quality than other cable modems, then it is just from the past. Only if it went for weeks beforehand, then yes, we know also that the quality can also be sufficient.

Could be, that another modem is less sensitive and does not have as many Verbingsabbrüche. But since I have both of 1und1, I take the view that need to get that right. And single modem is for me only one option if the router box operation directly to other modem supports without mods of her AVM. And even then I would 1und1 provide the additional modem. Finally, I pay for full power and not for 55%.

ciao

frank
durchzusetzen.Recht Well then I wish a lot of fun, this right at 1 & 1 have and justice are two very different things get wins in Deutschland.Hier still the one that financially the longer breath hat.Aber matter would be better if the Fritz with bypass the line better könnte.Einige modems are as seemingly a lot better than the internal modem of the problem is probably Fritz.Das primarily because the DSL lines have recently been released for the higher Speeds, although on such a line some time ago, yet not even DSL1500 would get.

Since 1 & 1 can not change the line (reseller), there are only two options:

- A better modem (if it can get at all with another modem in the handle - which is still in question)

- DSL connection can shift down to 1000

Whatever course you have the "right", its directors or check for possible interference to lassen.Zumindest at Telekom / T-Online and Arcor that were with me always never a problem (the Tele comedians are helpful, as they often are said here ). Since 1 & 1 is a reseller of the T-DSL is, so to speak, then you are sitting on the tube, because the skills are pushed back and forth.

Regards

TWELVE
I'm curious.

Got a response today, they would take care of and that I should have patience. 'm Curious ...

If I were then also pay € 3 less per month must then shift down for even an option. The higher upload is nice, but really I do not need to do urgently. A VOIP call is enough for me even once. The main line is stable.

Otherwise, learn to know me. Request Support can also automate <eg>

ciao

frank
I also asked at times AVM.

the screenshots of the FritzBox wanted from me.

And the signal to noise tolerance and the line attenuation and the course of the day. Nuja, now again enter first results ...

Date Time timestamp response time signal / noise tolerance Empfangsri
AUTION dB signal / noise tolerance transmit dB line attenuation reception
srichtung dB line attenuation dB transmit
1128372637 2005-10-03 22:50:37 1:09 23 48 -2 30
1128372698 2005-10-03 22:51:38 0.88 -1 23 48 30
1128372758 2005-10-03 22:52:38 0.91 0 23 48 30
1128372819 2005-10-03 22:53:39 0.92 -2 23 48 30
1128372880 2005-10-03 22:54:40 0.91 0 23 48 30
1128372941 2005-10-03 22:55:41 1:08 0 23 48 30
1128373002 2005-10-03 22:56:42 1:02 0 23 48 30
1128373063 2005-10-03 22:57:43 0.97 1 23 48 30
1128373124 2005-10-03 22:58:44 0.92 -1 23 48 30


ciao

frank
Looks so cruelly ... .. no wonder so many errors when the problems are constantly ...

Regards

TWELVE
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Originally Posted by TWELVE Looks so cruelly ... .. no wonder so many errors when the problems are constantly ...

Regards

TWELVE
Hab ja no comparison. In the old apartment I had zero problems since I've never been there reingeschaut

But last night until early this morning, there was absolutely no demolition. Only the intended separation of the FRITZ! Box.

I'm curious times, whether the problem has subsided, or whether the accident was because I so strongly under observation have (a batch file gets through lynx every 10 minutes, the event log, a Perl script gets every minute signal to noise tolerance and the line attenuation by lynx from).

Would be glad if the connection crashes disappear.

ciao

frank
Hi Frank,

as you have the hinbekommen with lynx? I tried wget, but was rejected on the application, because the wrong browser.
Presumably, the user agent must be sent?
Can you give me the info?
I would then run a PHP script as a cron job.


THANK YOU!
Harry
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Originally Posted by dotterbart55 Hi Frank,

as you have the hinbekommen with lynx? I tried wget, but was rejected on the application, because the wrong browser.
Presumably, the user agent must be sent?
Can you give me the info?
I would then run a PHP script as a cron job.


THANK YOU!
Harry
Write me a PM, I'll look this evening times on my laptop and send you the file to perl. Running indefinitely. Could you put so well in Startup, NEN does not even cronjob.

However, I have no password on the Fritz! Box, since only the local network available.

ciao

frank
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Posted by angst rand I also asked at times AVM.

the screenshots of the FritzBox wanted from me.

And the signal to noise tolerance and the line attenuation and the course of the day. Nuja, now again enter first results ...

Date Time timestamp response time signal / noise tolerance Empfangsri
AUTION dB signal / noise tolerance transmit dB line attenuation reception
srichtung dB line attenuation dB transmit
1128372637 2005-10-03 22:50:37 1:09 23 48 -2 30
1128372698 2005-10-03 22:51:38 0.88 -1 23 48 30
1128372758 2005-10-03 22:52:38 0.91 0 23 48 30
1128372819 2005-10-03 22:53:39 0.92 -2 23 48 30
1128372880 2005-10-03 22:54:40 0.91 0 23 48 30
1128372941 2005-10-03 22:55:41 1:08 0 23 48 30
1128373002 2005-10-03 22:56:42 1:02 0 23 48 30
1128373063 2005-10-03 22:57:43 0.97 1 23 48 30
1128373124 2005-10-03 22:58:44 0.92 -1 23 48 30


ciao

frank
Answer by AVM will receive:

Signal / noise tolerance should be at 6db, which is not given to me. The -1 to 1 up there are quite harmless, in part because I have -63. Interestingly, it worked even at -63.

And the line attenuation up to 50db, I'm 48 so still as straight drinne.

Nuja, let's see how it develops ...

So for the real thing: Which modem is because as a particularly "hard to take in"? The new firmware allows even the operation as a router behind a modem. Maybe I'll buy another modem anyway ...

ciao

frank
I'm with my LAN Teledat430 T-Com (actually, Siemens) made so far very good experience. You can even access a Web interface, even if it is not in the instructions

Play for 48 dB attenuation you're not very good in it - your line has just 63% of the maximum attenuation. Background: The decibel is calculated with NEM logarithm, therefore, represents 3 dB doubles the power or attenuation, 10 dB, a tenfold increase, 13 dB and 20 dB a factor of twenty already a Ver100fachung.
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